Intiman sits down with Obie winner Christopher Chen to talk about #CHENMINDFUCK

Intiman Theatre, March 2019

Christopher Chen in Seattle’s
Chinatown-International District.
Photo by Joann Natalia Aquino.

“I guess what my whole philosophy is about is the ethos of digging deeper, but not to any particular end… Most of my plays are about the journey of being forced out of your comfort zone.”

​Christopher Chen likes to take risks and make his own rules. An Obie Award-winning playwright whose full-length works have been produced and developed across the United States and abroad including at the American Conservatory Theater, Artists Repertory, Asian American Theater Company, Beijing Fringe, Edinburgh Fringe, Magic Theatre, Playwrights Foundation, Playwrights Horizons, Sundance Theatre Lab, and many others, Chen’s plays examine the hidden patterns beneath complex systems: the socio-political, the psychological and other systems of power.

Chen’s esteemed plays include THE HUNDRED FLOWERS PROJECT, THE LATE WEDDING, MUTT, YOU MEAN TO DO ME HARM, and CAUGHT —Intiman Theatre’s first mainstage production of its 2019 season, on stage from March 7-30, 2019 at the 12th Avenue Arts in Seattle’s Capitol Hill.

During his recent visit in Seattle, Chen met with arts marketer/writer Joann Natalia Aquino over dim sum in Chinatown-International District to talk about truth, his writing process and his life as a playwright in San Francisco. Read on.

You were born and raised in San Francisco, went to U.C. Berkeley for your undergrad and got your MFA from San Francisco State University. Why have you not left San Francisco for New York or Los Angeles where many playwrights and theatre industry folks migrate to?
I had always planned to go to New York at some point, but I guess I found a way to make it work because I started to have a New York presence without having to move there and so that’s all I needed was to have a presence and a foot in the door there. I started to really like just having a place separate from the hard-coreness and competitiveness of New York, and I kind of just like being in San Francisco as an endless writing retreat. In San Francisco, I’m able to be with my own thoughts more, my own head — and hopefully that gives me a unique voice too.

You were able to join Intiman’s First Preview for CAUGHT. What did you think of it? How is Intiman’s production different from the other productions you’ve seen?
I loved it! I thought it was a fantastic production and I’m not just saying that. All the productions I’ve seen of Caught are very similar yet very different too — just because of the nature of the art gallery is very different for each place…

I’ve seen this play so many times, but I was still actually surprised at the moments at which I’m supposed to be surprised because that’s the fun of the piece — the moments when the rug is pulled out. I thought that the design team, the actors and Desdemona (Caught director) completely transformed the space, and instantaneously, for example in Scene 2 — that I was even like, ‘Oh my God, that’s so cool!’ as I was watching it… As long as the different productions go with the same ethos — which is surprise  and rug-pulling, then it always works.

So, I’d like to talk about that surprise element in your plays. I interviewed Desdemona Chiang previously and she said that what she loves about your plays is that there’s something a little sinister about your writing that things aren’t always what you think they are. In fact, a Bay Area critic actually created the hashtag: “#CHENMINDFUCK” in honor of your playwriting style. What do you get out of that surprise factor?
To me, it’s actually very meaningful and it’s not just a gimmick or to say, “Ha ha, gotcha.” Most of my plays are about the journey of being forced out of your comfort zone, not in a way that should anger you per se, although that’s useful too at times — but there are ways of going outside of your comfort zone that could lead to enlightenment or the process by which you can train your mind to be more open, be more questioning, be more active and be more engaged. So this is more about the way to train the mind to be more active. That’s what this play is more about.

How do you come up with your story ideas?
I guess what my whole philosophy is about is the ethos of digging deeper, but not to any particular end. There’s a line in the play in Scene 3 where Wang Lin says, “It’s not a matter of end goals landing, it’s only a matter of journey.” And that’s kind of like my personal philosophy. It’s a documentation of the digging process, not to reach a final conclusion but actively engage with the audience as they’re watching to make them question things and think in real time.

What is your writing process like?
Occasionally I’ll talk to students and I use this term, “The Art to Rule Making” —   of making your own rules. So that’s what I feel is my greatest strength as a playwright — making my own rules for each different play.

What tips would you give to aspiring playwrights?
All methods are good. There’s a million different ways. It really is to find the way that works for you.  As a general rule, don’t be afraid to go really, really, really deep into what you’re writing about. And when you think you’ve reached what you thought is the theme or when you think you’ve reached a point that you’ve thought all about it, there’s always more that you can do. Also, I’m a big proponent of putting yourself into your play: your own insecurities, your own fears, your own prejudices — to explore that and to take risks, because that’s how you can be the most truthful.

Interview by Joann Natalia Aquino, a Pinay, an arts marketer, a publicist and freelance lifestyle writer.